Nick Griffin on Question Time
Nick Griffin got a political roasting at Question Time this evening. He squirmed, fidgeted and avoided key questions.
The first question was whether it was fair that the BNP hijacked Churchill. Jack Straw answered first by saying that Britain would not have won WW1 and WW2 without the contribution and sacrifice of black and Asian people. He said that Britain defeated a party based on race like the BNP. The BNP defines itself by race – that distinguishes it from every other party. All other parties have a moral compass. Nazism didn’t and neither does the BNP.
Jack Straw talked about a town in France where in the commonwealth war graves are hundreds of Asians from Blackburn.
Nick Griffin then said Churchill would have been in the BNP. He said that his hostility to Islam described Churchill as Islamaphoibic by today’s standards.
Then came one of the best interventions, surprisingly enough from a member of the audience. Griffin was told that immigrants had made massive contribution to this country. “The BNP absolute disgrace. …You are trying to poison politics.. What you stand for is disgusting.”
There was huge applause.
Griffin claimed that many of the quotes attributed to him in the Dominic Carman interview, carried this morning in the Daily Mail, was false. He was pressed by David Dimbleby to explain which were false. Griffin could only say that there was too many to mention.
Griffin lied and lied again. He said that he was never a Nazi. He sidestepped questions about the Holocaust, though he was picked up by Dimbleby for smirking whilst answering the question. “Why are you smirking? It’s not a laughing matter.”
The audience was strongly against Griffin. One person asked him where he should be sent back to, given that he was born here. He then went on to say that many people in the audience would happily do a whip round to pay for Griffin and his party tickets to travel to the South Pole.
Baroness Warsi quoted the BNP’s Head of Publicity, Mark Collett, saying Churchill led us into pointless wars. Bonnie Greer said that Churchill’s ancestral past meant he could not have joined the BNP.
A member of the audience said that Enoch Powell’s views were identical to those of Griffin. This was echoed by Lib Dem Chris Huhne, who said that the BNP looked for scapegoats. “It’s what Enoch Powell did. We had this in the 1930s against the Jews, in the 1960s against the Blacks and now Griffin against immigrants.
Griffin repeatedly lied. He claimed that it was he who took the BNP away from its anti-Semitic and nazi past. He then said “I am the most loathed man among Nazis in Britain.”
Several people made the point that Griffin said one thing in public but another in private. Jack Straw made reference to internal BNP documents about playing down their true views in public. Even Dimbleby mentioned an appearance in the US where Griffin said that “instead of talking about racial purity we talk about identity”
When pressed about the presence at the meeting of former KKK leader David Duke, Griffin replied that “I shared a platform with a non violent member of the KKK.” The audience rightly laughed at his stupidity. Griffin went on to say that Duke also regarded him as a sell out.
Griffin was now getting very nervous. In fact, he was even shaking. He was under full attack from all and the more nervous he got the more he smirked and the more stupid he looked.
Jack Straw summed it up. “We have seen that the moment anyone puts an uncomfortable quote to him he wriggles. I have seen his quotes on You Tube. He wants to wriggle out of it.
“The BNP have a manual to tell them how to speak. The language and concepts discipline manual. They are the only party who have to tell their party not to be racist.
“Griffin is the Dr Strangelove of British politics. (He tries to control his extremist politics but he can’t stop himself like the peter sellers character).”
Everyone was falling about laughing.
A member of the audience asked why Griffin hated Islam. He replied that it treats women as second class citizens. He admitted that it had “good points” but does not fit in with fundamental values of British society. “My policy on Islam is a truce with Islam. We should leave countries alone and ensure if Muslims stay here they do so understanding we are a British country. Britain must always remain a fundamentally Christian country.”
Baroness Warsi said that Griffin is a “confused man”, reminding the audience that he shared platform with Abu Hamza and had visited Colonel Gaddafi. “He is a thoroughly deceptive man. He is here to demonise Islam.”
On a question about immigration Griffin attacked the multicultural programme which he claimed had been imposed by the liberal elite. He spoke of the “indigenous Britons.”
Straw asked him if he meant “white?”
Griffin replied that the English, Scots, Irish and Welsh were “aborigines”. He said that the majority of the British people were ignored, saying that they felt shut out in our country.
The final question was whether it had been a good week for the BNP. Straw was the last to respond, saying that Nick Griffin was a “fantasising conspiracy theorist.”
And an idiot to boot. The audience almost universally laughed and mocked Griffin at the end.
Thought i’d throw this in aswell:
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Racism begins with our families, parents, brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, grandparents, people we admire, respect and love.
However, as we grow and mature we come to the realization that what we were told by of family when we were children were slanted lies base on their prejudices. We realize that most people are like ourselves and not so different and want the same things, like a home, steady work, a Medicare plan and schools for our children (if you travel you will see this).
We realize that most people are of good hearts and goodwill.
This reminds me of a parable from the good book where a Levite and Priest come upon a man who fell among thieves and they both individually passed by and didn’t stop to help him.
Finally a man of another race came by, he got down from his beast, decided not to be compassionate by proxy and got down with the injured man, administered first aid, and helped the man in need.
Jesus ended up saying, this was the good man, this was the great man, because he had the capacity to project the “I” into the “thou,” and to be concerned about his fellow man.
You see, the Levite and the Priest were afraid, they asked themselves, “If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?”
But then the Good Samaritan came by. And he reversed the question: “If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?”
That’s the question before us. The question is not, “If I stop to help the immigrant in need, what will happen to me?” The question is, “If I do not stop to help the immigrant, what will happen to him or her?” That’s the question.
This current climate of blaming others for our woes is not new. We have had this before and we have conquered it.
Remember “Evil flourishes when good men (and women) do nothing”. Raise your voices with those of us who believe we are equal and we can win this battle again.
Comment by Paul | October 24, 2009 |